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BIRMINGHAM 6: INNOCENT! (17 years before the truth emerged)

GUILDFORD 4: INNOCENT! (15 years before the truth emerged)/p>

TIPTON 3: INNOCENT! (2 years in Guantanamo for 3 innocents)

LEEDS 4: HOW LONG? NOT LONG....

At 10.20 on July 7th- Day 2 of the G8 and just after the London 2012 Olympic triumph - the Metropolitan Police reported they were responding to incidents at six locations on the underground and one on a bus. Initial reports from TFL and survivors were of power surges, train derailments and collisions but, after the bus explosion, the story changed dramatically and the G8 agenda turned from war on global poverty to a war OF terror via unattributable leaks and other disinformation (e.g. Type of explosives, Al Q 'masterminds'):

'Shortly after the bomb exploded on the bus we knew we were dealing with crime scenes.' - Tim O'Toole, LU (i.e. One hour to learn it was bombs underground?)

'There was smoke and dust everywhere. I was confused and just wondered what had happened. I didn't hear a bang or a boom.' - Jeff Porter, train driver of 18 years whose Circle Line train was involved in the incidents on July 7th.

'A series of explosions.... as if tube electric motor after motor was exploding.' - July 7th survivor and Blogger Justin at http://pfff.co.uk/

'The policeman said 'mind that hole, that's where the bomb was'. The met al was pushed upwards as if the bomb was underneath the train. They seem to think the bomb was left in a bag, but I don't remember anybody being where the bomb was, or any bag.' - Bruce Lait, Aldgate Survivor [Reported in: Cambridge News]

July 7th Anomalies, Coincidences & Unanswered Questions

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By midday on July 7th Blair was pointing the finger at 'these people who oppose our way of life'. Since then a racist 'trial by media' has taken place on the basis of no evidence. Instead of a powerful judicial Inquiry we are offered a 'narrative' written by a civil servant. Why? Who benefits? Bush and Blair lied about Iraq and fixed 'intelligence' reports around the invasion plan. After Kelly/Hutton, should we accept just a 'narrative'?
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Peter Power, ex-Scotland Yard Anti-Terrorist operative, was running a 1,000 man terror drill rehearsing bombs going off in precisely the stations they did that morning and told the BBC: "...at half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing upright!" (Similar unbelievable 'co-incidences' happened on 9/11 involving air defence and emergency 'exercises')
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BOMBERS COULD NOT HAVE CAUGHT THE 7.40am TRAIN FROM LUTON - The Met claimed the alleged bombers caught the 7.40 Thameslink train from Luton to Kings Cross but this train was CANCELLED. BBC2's Horizon reported that they caught the 7.48 train. This train arrived in London at 8.43, some 17 minutes AFTER the police say they have CCTV of the men at King's Cross. If the alleged bombers caught an earlier train from Luton then SHOW US THE EVIDENCE and explain the inconsistencies.
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NO CCTV FOOTAGE SHOWN OF THE FOUR ALLEGED BOMBERS IN LONDON! Why? Since when did one poor-quality photograph in which three of the faces cannot be identified, said to be taken 30 miles away at Luton, count as conclusive evidence?
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What happened to the seven explosions originally reported and the timings of 8.51, 8.56 & 9.17? Many survivors reported electrocution, sparks and explosions OUTSIDE trains. Which came first, explosions or power surges? Why don't the police admit there were TWO trains with fatalities on the Piccadilly line (trains 331 & 311)?
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Many anomalies surround the Number 30 bus, the only one reported to be diverted that morning, which was iconically (and strangely) de-roofed outside the BMA. Later, Ian Johnston, Chief Constable of the BTP wrote to the BMA stating, "Three of my officers were travelling behind the bus when the bomb exploded.” Despite this, after helping the injured off his bus, the driver disappeared only to re-appear seven miles away in Acton. And, fearing more explosions, police reported a 'microwave box' on the lower-deck [CNJ].
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Very strong SIS infiltration of Muslim communities,including Beeston/Leeds. When interviewed by the BBC about the Sidique Khan video, his friends said that the character in the video was not him! (Digital video editing & CGI techniques are incredibly advanced.)
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War OF Terror: 'IslamoFascism' is the mask behind which the real globalist-fascists, scheming for their New World Order, have repeatedly hidden. Madrid came 911 days after 9/11 - even The Times reported that the explosives man was a top police informer. And funny how the CCTV cameras at the station didn't work, just like the 911 airports and the 30 bus. New York, Madrid, Bali, Jordan and now London. Who and where next?
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How States work: Inside job frame-ups are routine operations when ruling fraternities want another war or more police-state powers. Intelligence services like the SS, CIA, Mossad and MI6 have been internationally recognised for encouraging or directly engin- eering terrorist atrocities (Reichstag Fire, Bologna station, Berlin disco bombing, Lockerbie, and now Samarra mosque). These 'black ops' are also known as 'false flag terrorism' because they throw the blame onto innocents allegedly linked to the enemy of today - the Left, Irish, Blacks, Muslims. See also Webster Tarpley, 'Synthetic Terrorism – Made in USA' and D. Ganser, 'Nato's Secret Armies' (fine academic text, Cass, 2005)
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In 2003-2005 several 'War on Terror' companies, including some based in Tavistock Square, landed tube engineering and security contracts [now the Bush-run Carlyle Group will be looking after our airports!]. TFL head Bob Kiley was once assistant to the director of the CIA. Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu was in London for a TASE/Deutsche Bank conference at the Great Eastern hotel (just by Liverpool St) where ex-Mayor Giuliani, of NY-9/11 infamy, was staying. Germany's leading Sunday paper reported head of Mossad confirming that Netanyahu received advance bomb warnings.

What next in the quest for July 7th Truth?

Each one of us deserves to know the full truth about who/what brought about the biggest loss of life in London since the Luftwaffe. Yet the authorities refuse to release a connected set of CCTV footage showing the alleged bombers in London on July 7th. Nor will they allow independent experts to check out phone, credit and computer records, or the tube, bus, Luton or Leeds forensics. In refusing an 'expensive' Judicial Inquiry the State has shown how cheap it holds the lives of Londoners.

Meanwhile we are left with no option but to conduct our own Independent People's Inquiry to find out WHAT happened on July 7th. Only then can we work out WHY it happened and how to stop it from happening again. If you have any doubts at all about the official version of events please write to your MP, the Home Office, to local and national newspapers and raise the questions that you feel need answering. We hope you may also wish to join the growing band of us who are researching collaboratively. Investigate with an open mind and remember that conspiracy theories are quite often conspiracy FACTS. For more information on 9/11 & 7/7 parallels and connections, see:

http://nineeleven.co.uk/ and http://officialconfusion.com/

The State has repeatedly proved itself to be the greatest criminal, breaking every written and natural law; killing through illegal wars and stealing from the poorest in the form of regressive taxes, increased fares, fines and living costs. Let us not forget the tragic fate of Brazilian electrician, Jean Charles de Menezes, executed at Stockwell station. Those who ask questions seek only the truth behind what happened in July. We are supposed to live in a democracy so let us hold politicians and public servants to account. Only the truth will stand the most rigorous of questioning and only liars need fear questions being asked.

In the name of Peace, Love, Truth & Justice, RELEASE THE EVIDENCE!

http://julyseventh.co.uk/

The Independent People's Investigation into July Seventh

For more information or leaflets telephone: 0845 456 4779 (local rate)

http://www.julyseventh.co.uk/july-7-truth-campaign-flyer.html
 
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Thanks for the links. Although I don't think the thread will last long. Try the other site.
 
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Total and absolute rubbish.



Get a life you sad little person.
 
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Roll Eyes
 
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Originally posted by Fil2:
Total and absolute rubbish.



Get a life you sad little person.


here here
 
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Sir Ian Blair labelled the investigation into July 7th, 'the biggest criminal inquiry in English history', yet, three days after July 7th, British Prime Minister Tony Blair refused the British public an inquiry into what happened.


and we know those two are always truthful, diligent in investigating the truth, incorruptible, upstanding, honest,

and the record of capturing and convicting innocents for heinous bombings is.... well...um..... chequered
 
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Thanks for that , goodbye.
 
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There's not a huge amount to get excited about here IMO but I found the below interesting...


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BOMBERS COULD NOT HAVE CAUGHT THE 7.40am TRAIN FROM LUTON - The Met claimed the alleged bombers caught the 7.40 Thameslink train from Luton to Kings Cross but this train was CANCELLED. BBC2's Horizon reported that they caught the 7.48 train. This train arrived in London at 8.43, some 17 minutes AFTER the police say they have CCTV of the men at King's Cross. If the alleged bombers caught an earlier train from Luton then SHOW US THE EVIDENCE and explain the inconsistencies.
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NO CCTV FOOTAGE SHOWN OF THE FOUR ALLEGED BOMBERS IN LONDON! Why? Since when did one poor-quality photograph in which three of the faces cannot be identified, said to be taken 30 miles away at Luton, count as conclusive evidence?
 
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What rubbish - these people havent even protested their innocence! - Theyare as guilty as sin!
 
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Newfangled Tongue
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Sir Ian Blair labelled the investigation into July 7th, 'the biggest criminal inquiry in English history', yet, three days after July 7th, British Prime Minister Tony Blair refused the British public an inquiry into what happened.


and we know those two are always truthful, diligent in investigating the truth, incorruptible, upstanding, honest,

and the record of capturing and convicting innocents for heinous bombings is.... well...um..... chequered


We all know fullwell who comitted suicide bombings In london last year and it was a group of British muslims. We have their video testimonies to prove it.
 
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Originally posted by Jim of the south:
What rubbish - these people havent even protested their innocence!


Errrm, they're dead. Allegedly.

I find it quite interesting that despite MI5 agents calling for a public investigation, the Govt refusing to do so and the official story having more holes than a sideboard in a charity shop, people still refuse to look at the evidence.

I think probably the biggest mistake was calling it 7/7. People seem unable to separate it from 9/11 conspiracy theories.

http://www.officialconfusion.com/77/index.html
 
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Good post, Kine. However, like 9-11, most folk have already lined up their scopes on their own particular taste in 'the enemy'. On both sides of the Conspiracy Fence, they are convinced who the target should be and will 'work' towards those ends, in a manner of speaking. Forensics are not required in many instances. A narrative will do just fine. And if it's got the official seal of approval, then who are we lame suckers to ask for more?

Of course 7/7 was a Reichstag event. Plain as day. Bold as brass. Classic, typical, consistent with the big Novus Ordo Seclorem Ops that went before, but unpalatable enough to force a denial in the subserviant, Pavlovian well-trained system-product mind of the average and below-average citizen, despite a whole heap of stark signposts pointing to an inescapable IMPLICATION (and potential line of tenacious inquiry) that the nutters already rule the asylum. For those who can see the fnords of Fear, that spring up like apparitions between the front lines in the War on Terror, let us laugh and cackle at their cack-handed, amateur, careless (so very careless) trails of proof that dare not be presented in a state of independent and comrehensive scrutiny.

A narrative will do just fine. As and when. No rush. There are other parties planned, don't you know? Bigger parties. It will take longer to clear those up. This little prelude, the 7/7 travesty and treason, will hold all the clues to the rest, but will become lost in the fog of this strange War, as the momentum builds to the mass-hysteric emotional reaction just around the corner. Those who insist they are not programmed this way are probably the model citizen. Oblivious.

I am not a cog in the machine. I am the Ghost.
 
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Originally posted by Jim of the south:
What rubbish - these people havent even protested their innocence! - Theyare as guilty as sin!


Yep, probably but we have courts of law here where proof is required. We don't want another fiasco where people are convicted in a poorly conducted trial and later get off.

I recall, a judge who was going over one of the IRA trials above saying, after the event, that they were probably actually guilty of the act but should not have been convicted of the crime !?!
 
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These conspiracy theories are interesting. I dont recall any conspiracy theories regarding the IRA bombings of London.
 
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It was the CIA !!!!
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Obvious really Roll Eyes
 
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Originally posted by Tension Span:
Good post, Kine. However, like 9-11, most folk have already lined up their scopes on their own particular taste in 'the enemy'. On both sides of the Conspiracy Fence, they are convinced who the target should be and will 'work' towards those ends, in a manner of speaking. Forensics are not required in many instances. A narrative will do just fine. And if it's got the official seal of approval, then who are we lame suckers to ask for more?

Of course 7/7 was a Reichstag event. Plain as day. Bold as brass. Classic, typical, consistent with the big Novus Ordo Seclorem Ops that went before, but unpalatable enough to force a denial in the subserviant, Pavlovian well-trained system-product mind of the average and below-average citizen, despite a whole heap of stark signposts pointing to an inescapable IMPLICATION (and potential line of tenacious inquiry) that the nutters already rule the asylum. For those who can see the fnords of Fear, that spring up like apparitions between the front lines in the War on Terror, let us laugh and cackle at their cack-handed, amateur, careless (so very careless) trails of proof that dare not be presented in a state of independent and comrehensive scrutiny.

A narrative will do just fine. As and when. No rush. There are other parties planned, don't you know? Bigger parties. It will take longer to clear those up. This little prelude, the 7/7 travesty and treason, will hold all the clues to the rest, but will become lost in the fog of this strange War, as the momentum builds to the mass-hysteric emotional reaction just around the corner. Those who insist they are not programmed this way are probably the model citizen. Oblivious.

I am not a cog in the machine. I am the Ghost.


I found your post very interesting but personally, I am of the mindless, programmed model citizen variety - i think...

Big Grin
 
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Originally posted by Cyber Mole:
It was the CIA !!!!
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Obvious really Roll Eyes


what's funny is that these conspiracy theorists often say "the governments did this to justify the invasion of Iraq."

However, not one of the 9/11 or 7/7 accused bombers were Iraqi. do you think that maybe if the government were to plan such an operation to justify the Iraq operation they would have at least have made a couple of the bombers Iraqi??

Or did they just forget?

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Originally posted by Cyber Mole:
It was the CIA !!!!
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Obvious really Roll Eyes


I think Ci9 were in on the act.
 
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It was the CIA !!!!

Obvious really


Sure as obvious as mossad having a hand in 7/7 which is where this is leading next!
 
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Originally posted by Cyber Mole:
It was the CIA !!!!
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Obvious really Roll Eyes


I think Ci9 were in on the act.


And East 17, they always looked dodgy Ninja
 
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Erm, a bit like with the Madrid bombings if this was a conspiracy what was the aim and did they achieve it?

I can't see much would be different if 7/7 had not happened. People mainly blamed the government for going into an already unpopular war.

I am sure The Lizards are very clever and all but I really don't get where they are going with these conspiracies.
 
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Originally posted by uefa81glory:
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Originally posted by Cyber Mole:
It was the CIA !!!!
Wink
Obvious really Roll Eyes


what's funny is that these conspiracy theorists often say "the governments did this to justify the invasion of Iraq."

However, not one of the 9/11 or 7/7 accused bombers were Iraqi. do you think that maybe if the government were to plan such an operation to justify the Iraq operation they would have at least have made a couple of the bombers Iraqi??

Or did they just forget?

Roll Eyes


I don't know why they have to justify anything really. They can just do what they want and there's f#ck all we can do about it for another 3/4 years.
 
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We all know fullwell who comitted suicide bombings In london last year and it was a group of British muslims. We have their video testimonies to prove it.


We have video testimony of Siddique Khan, a well-loved teacher and ex-DTI employee who promoted Britain abroad.

We do not yet know:
1. where the bombs came from
2. who organised the bombers?
3. who trained them?
4. which train did they get on at Luton?
5. how many other CCTV cameras picked them up and why the public have only seen 3?
6. why MI5 stopped following Khan?
7. who Haroon Aswat is & why he phoned the bombers 30x?
8. how did Osman Hussain (21/7 bomber) manage to avoid the country's "biggest ever manhunt" by getting on a train at Waterloo?
9. did Gleneagles distract our security services?

And the most important question, given New Labour's compromising of MI6 over Iraq:

10. at a time when Blair has made Britain terrorist target #2, can we trust our security services to protect Brain?
 
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These conspiracy theories are interesting. I dont recall any conspiracy theories regarding the IRA bombings of London.


The IRA were a far more credible terrorist/military entity with a history of such activities and use of codewords known and agreed by both sides. (Much like ETA).

The IRA were not used as some ellusive scapegoat for draconian legislation used primarily against those its supposed to protect.

Were disaster handling exercises ever being staged at the time of an IRA attack? Did assorted press reports and numerous other coincidentals occur immediately prior to or after any IRA attacks?

Of course there were no conspiracy theories then.
 
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Im sure i saw bodie doyle and cowley hanging around one of the tube stations on 7/7. Must have been the work of the proffessionals even though they were all part of a tv series that never existed in reality.
 
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