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Originally posted by Winston Smith:
Stanley Milgram proved that most people won't just believe what authorities tell them, 70-80% will actually electrocute a third party simply because an authority told them to.

Surely what the experiment proved is the fact that most people will unquestioningly believe an what an authority tells them and what that authority tells them to do:

"70-80% will actually electrocute a third party simply because an authority told them to"

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Originally posted by meaty:

can I join you

Count me three.

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As it is, the hawks have struggled ever since to try to link in Iraq, without success.

but they did try

and have succeeded in the mind of many many ordinary citizens to this day

Obviously not you nor the more canny of the educated/informed but that does not mean the connection was not hinted at or made by innuendo by people who if they were moral should have known better and been more careful

but then the agenda was never a moral one nor the methods to persuade moral either

The administration was NEVER straight about either

I'm surprised people believe what they are told so easily

It is very very easy to paint a picture or finger and convict an innocent; and almost everyone follows the lead

Who possibly would have believed Winston Silcott innocent or the Birmingham Six or the Guildford Four or ............?

You would have been thought insane or guilty of worse to even put forward it as a possibility

All the evidence and confessions even and scientific evidence as well. Sheesh someone must have known it was all hogwash....someone must have been doing all that concocting of the story to be told; all bunkum



Why not have an enquiry? It is regarded as the most heinous thing to have happened here and yet there will be no open enquiry

Are you not suspicious as to why?

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Originally posted by Q13:

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Originally posted by Winston Smith:
Stanley Milgram proved that most people won't just believe what authorities tell them, 70-80% will actually electrocute a third party simply because an authority told them to.

Surely what the experiment proved is the fact that most people will unquestioningly believe an what an authority tells them and what that authority tells them to do:

"70-80% will actually electrocute a third party simply because an authority told them to"

Yeah, I could have phrased that better

My point is that anyone who isn't asking for a public investigation clearly hasn't looked at the evidence.

I certainly think there should be a public inquiry so as to get everything out in the open. I think the reason one is resisted is that it will show how close the authorities were to stopping the bombers, if only a lack of resources had not led them to back off.